How to update SBServer in VBA?

[guidof]

I just updated SBServer to 7.5.3 in my PC.




How do I also update SBServer in my VBA?




(The link that appears in the VBA's SBServer merely downloads the setup file).




Thanks.

[Ron Olsen]

(watch this space)

[Jack Casual]

Likewise.




Some help will be much appreciated!http://vortexbox.org/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif




Jack

[Ron Olsen]

Andrew has added squeezeboxserver-7.5.3 to the VortexBox repository, so you can install it using the GUI updater or via



yum clean all; yum update squeezeboxserver

[guidof]

Ron:




Thank you for your as always quick reply!




But where is there an "update" in the GUI? (I only see an "upgrade" option).




I'd rather not mess up with command lines unless I really have to.




Guido F.

[Ron Olsen]

Sorry for the imprecise language — "update" and "upgrade" are synonymous. Click "Start Upgrade" in the VB GUI to pick up the new version of SBS.


Sooner or later, if you run into more problems, you'll have to learn to use the command line. Here's how to get started: http://info.vortexbox.org/tiki.....page=Login (http://info.vortexbox.org/tiki-index.php?page=Login)

[andrew]

guidof said:

I just updated SBServer to 7.5.3 in my PC.




How do I also update SBServer in my VBA?




(The link that appears in the VBA's SBServer merely downloads the setup file).




Thanks.




In the VortexBox GUI under the upgrade icon click start upgrade. That's it!

[guidof]

Ron Olsen said:

Sorry for the imprecise language — "update" and "upgrade" are synonymous. Click "Start Upgrade" in the VB GUI to pick up the new version of SBS.


Sooner or later, if you run into more problems, you'll have to learn to use the command line. Here's how to get started: http://info.vortexbox.org/tiki.....page=Login (http://info.vortexbox.org/tiki-index.php?page=Login)




Ron:




Thanks again!




Only place where "upgrading" doesn't cost one $$$ (or miles).




Yes, I will take your advice and PuTTY in -- eventually.




Guido F.

[guidof]

Andrew said:



In the VortexBox GUI under the upgrade icon click start upgrade. That's it!




Andrew:




Thank you.




May I suggest a line in your documentation clarifying the use of this function? It's not immediately apparent that "upgrade" means "update," particularly when unrelated stuff such as BLISS etc. appear in the box.




Guido F.

[popo]

Andrew said:
guidof said:

I just updated SBServer to 7.5.3 in my PC.




How do I also update SBServer in my VBA?




(The link that appears in the VBA's SBServer merely downloads the setup file).




Thanks.




In the VortexBox GUI under the upgrade icon click start upgrade. That's it!




How about us holdouts still at Vortexbox 1.5. Is there a way for us to upgrade to this latest version of SBserver?


Thank you.

[Jack Casual]

Hello,


I am having difficulty updating the SBS. I tried the GUI, and after 10 seconds I am alerted that the update was successful. I reboot, and SBS is still at 7.5.1




I tied it directly using Crypto, and got this result:




Cleaning up Everything
http://dl.atrpms.net/f11-i386/.....repomd.xml (http://dl.atrpms.net/f11-i386/atrpms/stable/repodata/repomd.xml): [Errno 14] HTTP
Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://www.mirrorservice.org/s...../stable/re (http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.atrpms.net/f11-i386/atrpms/stable/re)
podata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: atrpms.
Please verify its path and try again
[vortexbox.localdomain ~]#




What am I doing wrong??




Thanks

[Ron Olsen]

Don't know if Andrew is planning a Fedora 11 VortexBox version of SBS 7.5.3; but you could try the official Logitech version:





wget http://downloads.slimdevices.c.....noarch.rpm (http://downloads.slimdevices.com/SqueezeboxServer_v7.5.3/squeezeboxserver-7.5.3-1.noarch.rpm)


rpm -Uvh squeezeboxserver-7.5.3-1.noarch.rpm



I've had good luck with the official Logitech rpms for SqueezeBox Server; the above rpm works fine on VB 1.7/Fedora 14. But I can't guarantee that it will work on VB 1.5/Fedora 11.


Note: using the Logitech SBS rpm is not something that Andrew recommends or supports, but if it doesn't work, I can help you back it out and revert to Andrew's F11 SBS 7.5.2.


About the only thing that probably won't work with the Logitech SBS rpm is high-resolution playback using VortexBox Player. If you're using that, then don't use the Logitech SBS rpm.

[guidof]

Jack Casual said:

Hello,


I am having difficulty updating the SBS. I tried the GUI, and after 10 seconds I am alerted that the update was successful. I reboot, and SBS is still at 7.5.1





Jack:




I used the GUI, but paid no attention to the message about success. Left to its own devices, the GUI took several minutes and scrolled down a long list of commands. Eventually it stopped and that is when the update was actually successful. So perhaps you just need to let it do its thing.




Good luck!




Guido F.

[Ron Olsen]

Jack Casual said:

Hello,


I am having difficulty updating the SBS. I tried the GUI, and after 10 seconds I am alerted that the update was successful. I reboot, and SBS is still at 7.5.1




I tied it directly using Crypto, and got this result:




Cleaning up Everything
http://dl.atrpms.net/f11-i386/.....repomd.xml (http://dl.atrpms.net/f11-i386/atrpms/stable/repodata/repomd.xml): [Errno 14] HTTP
Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
http://www.mirrorservice.org/s...../stable/re (http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.atrpms.net/f11-i386/atrpms/stable/re)
podata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: atrpms.
Please verify its path and try again
[vortexbox.localdomain ~]#




What am I doing wrong??




Thanks




Are you on VortexBox 1.5/Fedora 11 or VortexBox 1.7/Fedora 14?


Looks as if you're on VB 1.5/F11 — the F11 atrpms repository you're trying to access was turned off a few months ago. You're going to have to delete the atrpms repo by

rpm -e —-nodeps atrpms-release
and try the update again. Since you are on F11, you'll only update to SBS 7.5.2, not SBS 7.5.3.

[Jack Casual]

HI Ron,




Thaks very much for the help. I was able to update the SBS to 7.5.2 using your instructions.




The reason I wanted to do that was, that anytime I take the VBA off-line and bring it back on, my players (two Classics and two Duets) go in to a "requires firmware update" routine, and I have to go through that process each time. I haven't tested it yet, but I suspect that when the VBA has an older version of SBS that what the hardware is looking for, this will happen. Are you familiar with this problem?




So, I WILL need to 1.7/1.4 in order to keep current but am a bit shy about doing that! The process seems a bit dodgey, but clearly other newbie users are doing it.




FYI, I'm also guessing that the reason the F11 atrpms repository was turned off was related to the fact that when I received my VBA new, the SBS was corrupted/inoperable. I had to get in to the putty thing right from the start to get it to work, but I didn't really know what I was doing. With Andrew's help though, we finally got it going.




The VBA is a GREAT device, although trying to keep things straight can be a bit difficult for us non-pprogrammer types.




Again, thanks for the quick and on-target solution. I will give the whole 1/7/1.4 update process a try in a few days.

[6p14pev]

Jack Casual said:


The reason I wanted to do that was, that anytime I take the VBA off-line and bring it back on, my players (two Classics and two Duets) go in to a "requires firmware update" routine, and I have to go through that process each time. I haven't tested it yet, but I suspect that when the VBA has an older version of SBS that what the hardware is looking for, this will happen. Are you familiar with this problem?





I am not Ron, but yes, I am familiar with this problem. I have an SB radio,


and I have been going through this update firmware loop for 3 days now.


I updated the SBS on VB last night, and will check today to see if I get into that


loop again. Hopefully it should have sorted itself out now.

[Ron Olsen]

Jack Casual said:

The reason I wanted to do that was, that anytime I take the VBA off-line and bring it back on, my players (two Classics and two Duets) go in to a "requires firmware update" routine, and I have to go through that process each time. I haven't tested it yet, but I suspect that when the VBA has an older version of SBS that what the hardware is looking for, this will happen. Are you familiar with this problem?



There are firmware upgrades for Logitech hardware players when moving from SBS 7.5.2 to SBS 7.5.3. When your VBA is online, and your players are connected to it, they require the 7.5.2 firmware versions. When you take your VBA offline, your players connect to mysqueezebox.com, which is always set to work with the latest official version of SBS, which is 7.5.3. Thus your players will request a firmware upgrade to the 7.5.3 firmware.


When you bring your VBA back online and connect your players to it, they will request a firmware downgrade to the 7.5.2 versions, since you are running SBS 7.5.2 on your VBA.


See http://svn.slimdevices.com/rep.....elog7.html (http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.5/trunk/server/Changelog7.html) for the changes in SBS 7.5.3.


You have two choices to avoid this firmware upgrade/downgrade loop:


1. Upgrade your VBA to SBS 7.5.3


or


2. Leave your VBA on-line all the time so your players do not connect to mysqueezebox.com


My recommendation is to do both. The VBA consumes very little power and there is little cost associated with leaving it on 24×7.



So, I WILL need to 1.7/1.4 in order to keep current but am a bit shy about doing that! The process seems a bit dodgey, but clearly other newbie users are doing it.



You could try using the official Logitech SBS 7.5.3 rpm on your VBA, since Andrew has not yet provided a VortexBox version of SBS 7.5.3 for Fedora 11. No guarantees, but it's worth a shot. See my earlier post in this thread.


Also, the VB-1.4 -> VB-1.7 upgrade process seems to work reasonably well for most users. Some run into problems, but we've been able to address them in the forum. If it doesn't work, you have the option of doing a clean install from the VB-1.7 iso. Have an up-to-date backup of your music library before you start.



FYI, I'm also guessing that the reason the F11 atrpms repository was turned off was related to the fact that when I received my VBA new, the SBS was corrupted/inoperable. I had to get in to the putty thing right from the start to get it to work, but I didn't really know what I was doing. With Andrew's help though, we finally got it going.



The F11 atrpms repository was turned off by the atrpms folks when they dropped support for Fedora 11; VortexBox had nothing to do with it.



The VBA is a GREAT device, although trying to keep things straight can be a bit difficult for us non-programmer types.



Kind of like a car: when things are working, simple to operate. When things go wrong, sometimes you have to lift the hood to see what's going on. On VortexBox, "lifting the hood" means logging in and using the Linux command line. Only the simplest of problems can be resolved just through the VB GUI.



Again, thanks for the quick and on-target solution. I will give the whole 1/7/1.4 update process a try in a few days.



Give it a shot when you have the time. Post any problems you run into and we'll try to help fix them.

[MikeS]

Thanks again Ron for all your help.


Another problem though! I had to create a new forum account. When attemting to logg in earlier today, I got directed to a page indicating my access had been denied!


Any idea what that is about?




Mike (AKA Jack Casual)




Thanks!

[guidof]

JackC said:

Thanks again Ron for all your help.


Another problem though! I had to create a new forum account. When attemting to logg in earlier today, I got directed to a page indicating my access had been denied!


Any idea what that is about?




Mike (AKA Jack Casual)




Thanks!




Jack (AKA Mike):




I also got the same 'access denied' message. Which I just ignored.




After I while, normalcy was restored and I got through all right.




Guido F.

[Jack Casual]

Hello again Ron,




I'm back at it again!


I am now in the process of doing the overall update of fedore/VB, as described in the Dec 28 posting " How to update my vortexbox from version 1.5 to the current release".


But while the VBA was going through the update process "fedore-update-stage1", the monitor I have attached to the VBA went blank. Is this a normal part of the update process? I plugged in another monitor while the VBA is still running (drive light quite active) to no avail. Can I move to Crypto on the PC to finish? I'm now "flying blind" with no monitor while in the middle of the process.




Thanks

[Ron Olsen]

Jack Casual said:

Hello again Ron,




I'm back at it again!


I am now in the process of doing the overall update of fedore/VB, as described in the Dec 28 posting " How to update my vortexbox from version 1.5 to the current release".


But while the VBA was going through the update process "fedore-update-stage1", the monitor I have attached to the VBA went blank. Is this a normal part of the update process? I plugged in another monitor while the VBA is still running (drive light quite active) to no avail. Can I move to Crypto on the PC to finish? I'm now "flying blind" with no monitor while in the middle of the process.



Did the monitor go blank due to entering power-save mode? This can happen if there is a period of inactivity. Does hitting the Enter key or the space bar (maybe more than once) bring the monitor back to life? Does powering the monitor down and back up bring it back to life?


You really need to get the monitor attached to the VBA working properly, so you know what happened with the fedora-update-stage1 command.


You could login to your VBA from a PC using CryptoTerm, but until you find out what happened with the fedora-update-stage1 command, I'd be hesitant to proceed any further.

[Jack Casual]

Hi Ron,




I researched the monitor, and it turns out that this display (LG) has known issues with screen blackouts. I turned it off for 1/2 an hour, then powered it up and it came back up long enough to complete the Fedora/VB update.


FYI, I got several error messages along the way that I didn't think I had resolved. But in the end, I now have Fedora 14, VB 1.7, and SBS 7.5.3! And it rips DVDs fine!


So I'm not sure how I did it, but it all seems to be running well with everything up to date.




A question though:


Any chance of giving the user the option of how the DVD is ripped to the VBA? It seems the mkv format is not recognized by the PS3 I am using as a video portal from the VBA. The PS3 WILL perform fine with most other video formats, but not the mkv.




Thanks!

[Ron Olsen]

Jack Casual said:

Hi Ron,




I researched the monitor, and it turns out that this display (LG) has known issues with screen blackouts. I turned it off for 1/2 an hour, then powered it up and it came back up long enough to complete the Fedora/VB update.


FYI, I got several error messages along the way that I didn't think I had resolved. But in the end, I now have Fedora 14, VB 1.7, and SBS 7.5.3! And it rips DVDs fine!


So I'm not sure how I did it, but it all seems to be running well with everything up to date.



All's well that ends well!



A question though:


Any chance of giving the user the option of how the DVD is ripped to the VBA? It seems the mkv format is not recognized by the PS3 I am using as a video portal from the VBA. The PS3 WILL perform fine with most other video formats, but not the mkv.



That's what the "mirror tracks to mp4″ is for — playback on a PS3. Check this box on the VB GUI Auto Ripper page and click "Submit" to set the DVD ripper options, then rip your DVDs. They will be encoded to .mp4 format as well as .mkv. Warning: the encoding to .mp4 format takes a LONG time!!!


Also see this thread for other options: http://vortexbox.org/forum/gen.....vortexbox/ (http://vortexbox.org/forum/general/ps3-playing-of-mkv-rips-from-vortexbox/)

[Jack Casual]

Thak very much Ron, I will definately check out the mp4 route!